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Absolute Proof of Moulage Application on Fake MH17 Corpses

This post represents absolute proof of the use of moulage, that is crisis-style make-up and fake blood, on the phony corpses of the MH17 hoax. The fake bodies were staged likely in advance and then transported into the final destination.

The dummies were strapped into the seats, dressed with moulage and fake blood, then put in place for photographic purposes. It appears that they are all dummies, unless in some rare instances real humans were used. There is no evidence at this time of actual corpses. If there were corpses, which is highly unlikely, then, they were not from the crash, since no such crash occurred.

In fact, it is the believe here, now, that it was all silicone, along with inflatable dummies, and that no actual corpses were used.

This is what a corpse from an actual airline crash looks like, in this case Helios 522:

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Note the dull skin tone. Nevertheless, there is a major difference from what is seen in the MH17 hoax:

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There can be no other possibility. The material that looks like blood, abrasions, contusions, and more was artificially applied. There are no open wounds to be seen anywhere. Too, if these were real humans as a rule the skin tone looks normal. There is no pasty pallor seen anywhere, that is with the exception of the dismembered part shown later.

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It is clear and categorical that the moulage has been specifically applied, largely by make-up devices and brush strokes. Note the artificial pattern of dripping from the ‘neck’ area. Note, too, the make-up like coloration added to the forearm to mimic bruises. At the point of such make-up in this case there are no wounds.

The people who did this are experts, make no mistake about it. Were they flown in from Zionist-controlled Hollywood?

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The strokes of the moulage are absolutely clear here on the dummy buttocks and elsewhere. Different colors of make-up were used.

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The use of moulage is also clearly evident in this image, where the fake gore was injected with phony blood, that is tempura paint. There is no possibility that this is real.

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This is a rather clear example of a staged corpse. Notice that, once again, there is no dirt or grass stains, no tearing or destruction, of the clothes.

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Similar violet-red color tones are seen here in the moulage applied to these pranksters. Too,. look at the moulage-coated dummies arm. It seems so realistic. Silicone is highly realistic:


http://www.waldomason.com/#!Kidney-removal-scar-/zoom/cox7/image15g2

(Credit to Waldo Mason Effects)

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A fake half torso is no major issue. They are available for a few thousand dollars and may be readily dressed up, as is the case with this model, with fake blood and moulage. It even appears that there are finger marks on the fake abdomen associated with the applied moulage. This is a dummy, not a real person. It was just dropped there by the Zionist perpetrators.

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It doesn’t look like the inflation of this dummy’s arm held well. It’s as thin as a piece of paper. Note the emphasis on the fake mangled hand.

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This, too, is most likely silicone versus real bodies, roasted in the fake fire.

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There are fabricated legs seen strewn about. They are nearly all coated with moulage:

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It may be recalled that the foot that was thrown in the grass was cut at a 90-degree angle, such as these stage props:

The feet and legs do look somewhat realistic.

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The foot is a fake, mere silicone, cut off on its top edge, like the stock photo demonstrates.

Once again, there is a fake corpse with associated paraphernalia. Yet, there is never any dirt or grass stains. Nor is the ground disturbed. Nor are the seat the least bit damaged or made dirtier by the impact.

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This is obvious moulage. There can be no other possibility.

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This appears to be another example of an inflatable dummy. Note the fake hairline.

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Note also the shape of the chest and abdomen, which is typical of silicone and/or inflatable dummies.

The ‘wreckage’ and personal effects are also clearly staged. Many of the suitcases and other elements have been opened for the purposes of photography.

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There was no looting occurring. That was done to demonize the Russians, while Putin and the Russian economy are specifically being targeted.

There is not a grass stain or significant dirt seen on any of the examples of luggage, with one or two highly minor exceptions.

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Notice the perfectly clean nature of clothing, paper, and other personal goods. This is a hoax to the extreme, to a degree very poorly done.

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The claim is that the hoax scenes were filmed the night before. Regardless, the issue is that the entire event was staged. Zionist moles physically took the fake corpses out to the field, along with the strewn wreckage, and dumped it there.

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MH17 is a filthy Zionist plot, and it is now impossible to dispute this.

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  1. Hats off again! Unfuckingbelievable!!!!

    • Great work!

      This is a long video which is well worth the listen. Eran Efrati, former Israeli army, talks about what he has observed. I broke down some of the more interesting parts.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93hqlmrZKd8&feature=youtu.be

      31:45 Using Palestinians as guinea pigs to test weaponry that they later sell to other governments, literally making a killing. “It is not religion. It is not land. It is a laboratory.” He talks about tear gas canisters that were tried on the Palestinians and then sold to other countries. Other weaponry he used on Palestinians were sold to other countries and governments. It is all about money, the amounts which are massive, in his view.

      33:20 How Zionists had got other Zionisists to throw rocks at Israelis at a protest, pretending to be Palestinians, inciting violence and inflaming emotions.

      33:42 Regimes and dictatorships around the world that the Israeli army has sold munitions to or worked with providing information and support.

      Approximately 33 minutes, Efrati talks about how he was given a ride in the US by a Maryland police officer and told him he was an Israeli soldier. The Maryland police officer said he had returned from there after being trained by Israeli military in how to deal with “opposition”. He indicated police forces around the US are being trained by Israel. Efrati says this is why police have become more militized to treat the American citizen as the enemy and that Israel will treat the American citizens just like they treat the Palestinians if a stance is not taken now and people stand up to Israeli lies.

      • 100% same guy! Survivor TV actor is the same mossad actor in this zionist hoax plane shootdown event playing the brother of fake dead actor Cameron Dalziek ! Same slimey smirking jerk spreading hatred and anger between Russians and Ukrainians with his zionists lies!
        From TV show: Shane Hattingh
        http://survivorsa.dstv.com/category/profiles/shane-hattingh/
        From CNN interview Shane Hattingh
        http://m.nydailynews.com/imageprocessor?image=http%3a%2f%2fassets.nydailynews.com%2fpolopoly_fs%2f1.1878656.1406217737!%2fimg%2fhttpImage%2fimage.jpg_gen%2fderivatives%2farticle_970%2fcredit25n-1-web.jpg&width=320

        • Nice work, Cowboy. No internet trace of a Reine Hattingh.
          The victim’s brother-in-law told Eyewitness News in South Africa that his sister, Reine Dalziel, is so traumatised she has not been able to answer phone calls from anxious relatives.

          He said: “She is basically alone there other than with new friends. So she couldn’t even talk to me. Apparently three people from the company were there with her. It’s crazy, the kids are going to be absolutely shattered.”

          Dalziel is believed to have been working for CHC Helicopter in Malaysia, but had been sent for training in the Netherlands. He was returning on yesterday’s Malaysia Airlines flight when the plane was shot down over war-torn Ukraine, near the Russian border.
          http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-airlines-mh17-victims-pilot-cameron-dalziel-among-nine-dead-britons-1457284
          July 18 2014

          ….in Malaysia, where they had recently moved to
          Reine Dalziel’s husband Cameron, a South African with a British passport who recently moved his family of four to Malaysia

          now why would he have a British passport?

          from news24:
          He said his sister, Reine Dalziel, also watched the procession *** adding that she’s “destroyed”.
          All that the family know is that Cameron was sitting in the business class section of the plane, which reportedly did not sustain much damage.
          Meanwhile, a team has left South Africa to identify Cameron’s body.
          His brother Campbell said on Wednesday that DNA swabs had been taken from their parents, and that dental records and identity documents would also be used.
          He thanked the British foreign office, his brother’s employer, and others who have supported the family.

          ***[of empty coffins….] perhaps Cameron did likewise?
          i don’t believe this credit card theft lark for one second: just another ploy to bolster the shaky official narrative that MH17 crashed with 298 people near Donetsk. as here…
          “Reine was advised to close the cards because of rumours that people were looting from the crash site. We haven’t seen any suspicious activities on my brother’s cards,” he said.
          source:
          Independent on Saturday, South Africa July 26 2014
          i.e the story is a hoax in itself.

          Dalziel’s younger brother, Campbell, 38, of uMhlanga also provides story back up.

          One story [[his brother, Campbell, says Dalziel had been at a conference, another that he was having rotary wing training in the Netherlands. hmmmmm

        • Cowboy,

          You really don’t think that CBS and Survivor’s producers wouldn’t have caught that? Next you are going to say that they are in on it too…
          What are we up to now?
          Half or more of America and the World was in on this?
          You really need to get out more buddy.

        • That is exactly the same person. Well done. I’m on it.

    • Hollywood style props are on the web for purchase by anyone, including Zionist operators who want to fake deaths in a plane crash.

      I’m not saying they used this company, I’m just providing this as an example:

      http://www.dappercadaver.com/categories/male-corpse-props-dummies/

    • Slimebag liar mossad assest Shane Hattingh warmonger interview. This arrogant smirking warmongering liar stinks with deception and lies.
      Helping the zionists to simultaneously pour gasoline of the flames of war between Ukraine & Russia while he helps divert the world’s attention so these genocidal maniacs can mass murder more innocent Palestinian people. May he rot in hell!
      http://m.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-airlines-victims-identitites-stolen-article-1.1878657

    • You total fucking morons.

      • Dr. Flynn,

        Yes. There are quite a few morons that escaped the institution running amok on this site but please do not group us all together.
        There are a few of us that do not partake in this sites kool aide.

    • Come on. You people are fucking retarded. You believe this shit??? That this was faked? The World, it seems, has now shortage of brain dead retards.

  2. But how are they going to do this with identification of the bodies? 194 victims came from my country. I really don’t think all the forensic experts are in on this as well. Where are the people that were on that flight? Are they with the people that were on flight MH387 or what was it.

    Forensic experts of my country are informing families of their lost ones. I don’t think they are fake or in on it which would be ridiculous. So where does the hoax end and where does it become reality?

    • “Forensic experts of my country are informing families of their lost ones.”

      If you’re basing that statement on a media report, then it’s most likely just a lie to support the foundation lie (missile shoots down commercial passenger jet, MH17, 298 dead).

      Just observe this hoax by watching the media clips of the “crash site”, and you see that there was no commercial plane crash, it was a staged event, then you can dismiss any further media report. It is like watching a Hollywood movie being played out, except it’s on your TV.

      Regarding the other flight, it was MH370, and that was also a hoax. There was no such plane that went missing. You can view the clips of the crisis actors posing as relatives of the “victims”, search this site and on YouTube.

      You can also research the Boston Bombing hoax. In that hoax, they used a smoke bomb, crisis actors, and moulage kits, the same type of props they use in Hollywood.

      The props can look quite real. The crisis actors play the role of victims or their friends/relatives. It has been done over and over again, because they know it’s enough to fool the sheep, as most will not look into the details, they will only listen to the sound bytes, and simply accept what the media is saying as fact.

      Regarding the statement, “where does the hoax end and where does it become reality”:

      To answer your question, the “hoax” ends and “reality” begins when YOU determine whether it’s a hoax or if it’s reality. For most, the hoax is the reality. For others who are able to see the subtle truth, the reality is the hoax.

      • blow me….
        http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-25/australian-experts-visit-mh17-crash-site-as-dutch-take-charge/5622860
        investigators at the scene found a previously undiscovered part of the Malaysia Airlines plane’s fuselage, along with more bodies, more than a week after the Boeing 777 was shot down.

        It is understood the location of the bodies has been marked with a white flag, but investigators do not have the facilities available to handle human remains…..

        …A spokesman for the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), Michael Bociurkiw, says the piece of fuselage that was found “appeared out of nowhere”.

        “The most significant find today was we went into a heavily wooded area and found a huge piece of fuselage,” Mr Bociurkiw said.

        “I think this is the part of the plane that came down which … travellers would say resembles an airline. The windows were still intact and if one wanted to they could even climb inside and be covered.

        “It almost appeared out of nowhere because there were no tell-tale signs, no broken branches, nothing to indicate that a piece of fuselage had landed there.”

        unbelievable! The hoax continues.

        • That is incredible if it wasn’t so laughable. Let’s have some pictures of these newly found crisis cadavers.

        • “It almost appeared out of nowhere because there were no tell-tale signs, no broken branches, nothing to indicate that a piece of fuselage had landed there.”

          If people can’t read the above sentence quoted from the article and realize that MH17 is a staged event, then no amount of evidence, whether it’s a written article, or a media clip, will convince the sheep.

    • They hand select the forensics examiners and make sure all are approved, “on the take”, mostly freemasons and zionists Jews or known psychopaths willing to sign off on anything for money.

      • yep,it’s a closed circle. Pathologists are the key liars in any hoax the world over. They’re on the state payroll. And sometimes doctors are in on it, as at Boston.

  3. This sounds like a sincere question…maybe something other than trolling…so maybe the writer deserves a response…There are no “forensic experts” working to identify victims…real forensic work on human remains takes weeks…the remains are preserved as the work continues…you probably saw news reports showing people carrying coffins to a burial place…how could they be burying remains with forensic and identification work continuing? And did you notice that all of the coffins shown were exactly the same style? How many different families would be represented on one airplane flight? If passengers were killed in a crash, remains identified and given to relatives, every family would choose a casket and a coffin…you would not see everything matching for dozens of people. And you would not see one funeral procession for all of them…the answer is…it’s all just news feeds…this was a virtual plane crash with virtual victims…none of these famous news reporters talking about this saw anything related to any crash…they have just been receiving news feeds…from one source. No one worries about whether they will remain quiet about fake news reports…they may not even know that it’s fake…

    • Cecilia,

      No, there never were coffins going to a burial place. The long row of hearses went from Eindhoven, the airport where the planes landed, to Hilversum, to military barracks. To be identified there.

      You are correct that identification will take weeks to months at the very least.
      This has been publicly stated by just about everybody in the Netherlands.

      Identification, and coffins:

      People will absolutely NOT receive random remains! And not the same coffins. These basic coffins were handouts to at least transport them in a dignified manner. You wouldn’t really consider putting bodybags in the back of car while the whole world is looking, would you?

      The identification will be done by different types of experts.
      Here is an IMPORTANT thing to know though: All relatives are allowed to personally see the remains.
      (national police website: http://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2014/juli/24/00-identificatie-zorgvuldigheid-is-heel-belangrijk.html)
      Do you really think somebody could make a dummy of a familymember, and you wouldn’t spot the difference? Puh-lease. Ofcourse you would.

      Mr. Sheep in this thread seems to think that you can just write a story for 300 imaginary people…you can’t. All names on the passengerlists have been linked to many, many people. Friends, family, coworkers, classmates and other people.
      These people have been on TV, in Newspapers. Entire elementary classrooms and villages have gone in mourning because an entire family was wiped out and gone.
      You cannot just bribe that many people to leave EVERYTHING and EVERYONE behind and have everybody think you’re DEAD.
      (plus, the relatives who want to see you a last time would be another problem, as pointed out in the previous paragraph. you’d have to bribe a thousand people or so. and never get caught)

      As for the ludicrous silicone suggestion:

      Let’s take this apart with common sense and logic, shall we?

      The rebels/separatists were in full control of the crash site, for at least three days. Yes?

      It is pretty much the ONLY thing the following four parties agree on.

      a) the Russians
      b) the Separatists
      c) Ukrainian government
      d) “the West” (Western Europe plus USA)
      (Another group would be the local civilians)

      Now follow:
      NOBODY wants to be held accountable for this mess.
      Any party found responsible for this would get a severe backlash in loss of support; politically, financially or militarily.

      If what is being said here is true, that the Ukraine (c) and the West (d) are trying to pin this on the Russians (a) and the Separatists (b), don’t you think that the latter two would try very, very hard to avoid this??

      We go back to the first bit: the Separatists have been in full control for that site for at least three days. Dozens of those guys. They have been recording the scene and basically standing on top of the corpses. For three days.
      And now this website is telling me that NONE of the DOZENS of soldiers, in THREE days have noticed that the bodies are actually FAKE?? That they did NOT CHANGE IN APPEARANCE??

      BULL.SHIT.

      If any of these guys had the even the FAINTEST idea of scam, WOULDN’T THEY SHOW THE ENTIRE WORLD?? You wouldn’t just allow other parties to screw you over like that?? Everybody is going to hate you if they pull that off, you want to avoid this!

      “But what if the separatists were hired, not real??”

      I suspect the Real separatists and Russia would strongly point out those guys do NOT belong to them!

      And if not for these guys, how many journalists have been there? So they are all fooled/bribed as well??

      We are very lucky that some stills from a youtube video have now been expanded to a pixelated mess, so we can finally see what hundreds of others with a much better view did not.

      Fuck this shit.

      I have a close relative and a very good friend who have both lost a friend.
      What do I see? People that refuse or are unable to think shit through, and are now either saying those dead people are silicone dummies, never existed, or have been bribed to disappear.

      Use your goddamn brain instead of gobbling everything up as real.
      Sheeple? Yeah, I’ve now seen a few.

      • Oh, sure. Do you know how many people come on to this site to say that they have a close relative and a very good friend who lost a friend in (insert current hoax disaster here). ?And if you want to believe that those matching wooden coffins shown in the “news reports” contained anything, you can just go ahead and believe. You can also go on believing that human remains from a crash or shooting or natural disaster are delivered to a forensics lab in coffins. Some of us know that this is just not done…the funeral procession for this crash hoax was all for show…it was a display…it was part of the hoax…I do want to say that I am very sorry to learn, from your post that the very close friend of your very close friend is a dummy. Is he a silicon close friend or is he inflatable?

        • Cecelia,

          Yes, it’s the same response you see in the Sandy Hoax, “I know somebody, who knew somebody, and they lost a child…” or “show some respect, people are grieving” blah blah blah.

          When nobody dies and nobody gets hurt, one cannot mourn real people. However, it’s acceptable to mourn imaginary friends and imaginary relatives in a hoax!

        • Yes, please ignore all the logical things and facts I wrote own and go ad hominem. Classy.
          Fine, ignore the relatives and look at the rest. You know, the other 95%?

          Once again; do you really think that dozens of soldiers would not notice that bodies do not start to decompose in that heat, in over 3 days??
          And wouldn’t they want to expose the hoax that would frame them, hmm??
          Or if they are in on it, don’t you think that maybe the Russians and separatists would yell they don’t know these guys??
          They made 300 fake names, then had several hundreds of fake relatives also speak out? Are you serious?

          “people carrying coffins to a burial place”
          I told you no burial was made, and I challenge you to find one. they have been moved over to barracks. look it up lazy girl.

          “There are no “forensic experts” working to identify victims…real forensic work on human remains takes weeks”
          There are now, as I mentioned. Link was also provided.

          “And did you notice that all of the coffins shown were exactly the same style?”
          No shit Sherlock. Perhaps they should have asked hundreds and hundreds of people to make up their mind and pick a more personal one from a catalog? Fucking Moron.

          “And you would not see one funeral procession for all of them”
          No burial, no funeral procession.

          “I do want to say that I am very sorry to learn, from your post that the very close friend of your very close friend is a dummy. Is he a silicon close friend or is he inflatable?”
          Go fuck yourself you piece of trash

          • Sheep.. whom I mean is very clearly stated in the “silicone” topic. And she was a very well known local person.

            And it is not “somebody”, who knew somebody’s neighbours’ hairdresser.

            Very close relative. Very close friend.

          • BS,

            Of course the fanboys on this site ignore tangible factts. And they us sheeple. Lol
            Truthfully, I do not even bother to put forth my analysis any more.
            You will find that they will call you every name in the book and then some when they do not have their cookie cutter response at the ready.
            Please stick around. I enjoy reading your responses.

            On another front.

            Big Daddy seems to have forgotten his medical training.
            The lone foot really is a human foot that has been severed. You can see this just from the pooling of what blood was left when it was severed. It has that nice Prussian blue color along with the lack of as ny color in the normal pattern which is seen in text books.

            Now someone will come back with “all the more cause to believe it is a fake. The hoaxers are getting creative”.
            To which I will respond with my usual POTATO.

          • Thanks Larin, appreciated. They don’t seem to understand how completely disrespectful they are.

            Go potato? I don’t know that one? 🙂

            OT: people here are overfocussed, tunnel vision.
            It must and SHALL all be a hoax. However implausible it is becoming, with some extravagant script it could STILL be a hoax.
            The reason is much more mundane; trigger happy soldiers pulled the trigger in an area where they already downed several enemy aircraft. They were likely not even considering it was civilian.

            You could debate the reroute, whether some parties had a sinister plan to put the aircraft in harms’ way.

            But these people are really dead, and they are not coming back.
            This is why I got angry at the crap some people are spouting here.

            There are way, WAY too many people that have had a close-up look. Close-up images.
            And now only this website can spot the difference.

            Get real.

      • You stupid lying zionist trolls always tell the ridiculous lie that you know someone who died. You are a damn liar like little liar troll Gabriel with that crap…Or maybe you are the same lying troll lol!

        • Yeah,

          we’re all dirty “Zionists”…Why are you calling us Zionists? What makes you say I’m a zionist?
          On the sites “Purpose&Goals” section you say that you want to reveal the truth by presenting FACTS. Now tell me with facts how I am a “Zionist”. I’m german and I’m not jewish.

      • Nice one, thank you.
        I basically have the same ideas on this bullshit here; I commented on a different article(Fake blood and body parts…) and also said, that you would have to bribe soo many people and make up 300 people and fake names etc…

        I don’t know how it’s possible to ignore so many facts.

        In that other article I posted, I said that the bodies look like other bodies in plane crashes and mentioned pictures from the Helios Flight 522;

        In the newest article on MH17 they use one of that pictures to claim, that this is how real bodies on a plane crash looks like…

        Too much BS.

        • This is what I posted on an other article:

          “This whole Hoax-Theory is so full o bullshit, I haven’t even words to describe it.
          You post pictures of dead people and claim, that those are fake bodyparts and some of them are dummy’s?
          Just google “Helios 522″ and look at the pictures of the dead people and then I hope you finally stop posting bullshit!”

          “1. When a plane shatters into pieces, there are so many pieces of metal, which can easily cut a body AND create a smooth cut. There are forces you can even imagine- a human body, which consists to 80% of water is nothing compared to the forces occurring in such an explosion.

          2. There’s a picture o a dead body from Helios flight 522, which has had cut off half of the head- and there is no blood all over the place.

          3. It’s logistically impossible, to put 298 dead people randomly on an crash site. They would have to put 300 corpses into some Trucks or something and bring it to the crash site almost SIMULTANEOUSLY to the crash site and then put them there. There must have been hundrets of helpers to get that done. Besides that, this would have been too obvious.

          3. There’s a video in which you can see people from the villages, who found bodies in their gardens or even houses. What’s with that? Do you want to bribe those people so they let you put dead people in their houses or even cut a hole in their roof? How much do you want to pay them, so they keep their mouths shut? Impossible, too much risk that they can’t keep the secret.

          4. Why I’m reacting like this? Because you treat dead like some objects and show- even if you doubt everything- no respect to people and show their pictures on websites like they were some animals for research purposes.”

          “Do you really think, that NOBODY would recognize a inflatable dummy?Really? You think that someone, who wants to fake a planecrash would use a inflatable dummy? Nobody could be stupid like that… Reporters would be there in hours…somebody would know”

          “5. What do you want to do, if the family members simply say that the people from MH17 aren’t their relatives? The dutch won’t lie, the have no reason for that. So basically you also have to bribe 298 dutch families and the dutch government.”

          “6. Passports: a lot of passports look like they were new, because normally you put your passport, as an important document you don’t want to lose, in some good place; like your backpack or something. Chances are high, that they remain undamaged, like A LOT OF baggages and clothes etc, found on the crash site.”

          • /how many people were paid off after 9/11? so easy in Ukraine to pay off a few locals. What the annual income there? bargain basement.
            your theory comes down to:
            “The Dutch won’t lie”
            ….
            “It’s logistically impossible, to put 298 dead people randomly on an crash site”
            that’s why there was just a sprinkling of random dummies or recycled corpses or living people playing dead for the camera for public consumption to convey the message there were 298 of them “somewhere out there” if the passports were so immaculate, so must have been the bodies on which they were carried…..lots of immaculate passports

          • I never said that bribing the locals is impossible; I just say that that this would be too risky and stupid. Bribing simple people is way too risky, because you simply can’t be sure, that they keep their “secret”.

          • It’s in german:

            They have identified the first passenger, he’s dutch.
            The picture shows the victims’ family members.

          • ….except the photo shows Australian relatives in Melbourne, allegedly.
            here’s Mr Tuinder [at least he’s Dutch] waiting for “government agreement” for him to search for the 100 or so missing bodies in 14 square kilometers, or whatever.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDIWX5VrXFM

        • I wasn’t referring to the dutch victim, but to all victims.
          Sorry if my grammar sucks.

      • Respect hoe je dat hebt neergezet , je zet veel mensen weer met beiden benen op de grond xxx

  4. If the crash site is fake, then the area of it can not be under separatist control. Which means that the soldiers and civilians in the pictures after the crash are fake as well. And the story that the pro russian side took care of the black boxes and the corpses is just bogus.

    Which leads to the question why no rebel leader has stepped forward and told the world that they did not have access to the crash site, nor the bodies or the black boxes.

    Or does DrK mean that Putin and the pro russian separatists also are in on the hoax? Why in that case?

    • Finally! Somebody who doesn’t think Logic and Common Sense are like Kryptonite!

      Thank you Scoo, for pointing out what should be obvious for this lot.

      • Hats off for both of you Calling this bs and Scoo, some good questions about this being a hoax but without good answers from the other side ( ppl say this is a hoax ) i comment a few times to over here but all they can do is offend me and giving me nicknames like Lunactic, i wonder who the Lunatics are over here 😉 Uhuhhh Putin, the seperatist, king Alexander, queen Maxima, the loved ones allll are in this ”hoax” shm how pathetic some of the morons over here are. Its obvious and proven this is not a hoax, but they just don’t quit with looking for non excisting evidence. Try harder buddy’s lots of people with commong sense are not falling for this. Maybe when the freaks are going to the crash site and smelling the rotting bodies they will believe it, oo nooo of course not, its a fake rotting cadaver odor JUP without a doubt. There are still a lot of bodies over there, 3 days ago 40 ppl were coming home, yesterday 74, today 75 and tomorrow another 38 bodies and thats the last flight for now.

        You both are having some good points with:

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        Calling this bs JULY 25, 2014 AT 3:38 PM

        Once again; do you really think that dozens of soldiers would not notice that bodies do not start to decompose in that heat, in over 3 days??
        And wouldn’t they want to expose the hoax that would frame them, hmm??
        Or if they are in on it, don’t you think that maybe the Russians and separatists would yell they don’t know these guys??
        They made 300 fake names, then had several hundreds of fake relatives also speak out? Are you serious?

        Calling this bsJULY 25, 2014 AT 1:29 PM
        Cecilia,

        No, there never were coffins going to a burial place. The long row of hearses went from Eindhoven, the airport where the planes landed, to Hilversum, to military barracks. To be identified there.

        You are correct that identification will take weeks to months at the very least.
        This has been publicly stated by just about everybody in the Netherlands.

        Identification, and coffins:

        People will absolutely NOT receive random remains! And not the same coffins. These basic coffins were handouts to at least transport them in a dignified manner. You wouldn’t really consider putting bodybags in the back of car while the whole world is looking, would you?

        The identification will be done by different types of experts.
        Here is an IMPORTANT thing to know though: All relatives are allowed to personally see the remains.
        (national police website: http://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2014/juli/24/00-identificatie-zorgvuldigheid-is-heel-belangrijk.html)
        Do you really think somebody could make a dummy of a familymember, and you wouldn’t spot the difference? Puh-lease. Ofcourse you would.

        Mr. Sheep in this thread seems to think that you can just write a story for 300 imaginary people…you can’t. All names on the passengerlists have been linked to many, many people. Friends, family, coworkers, classmates and other people.
        These people have been on TV, in Newspapers. Entire elementary classrooms and villages have gone in mourning because an entire family was wiped out and gone.
        You cannot just bribe that many people to leave EVERYTHING and EVERYONE behind and have everybody think you’re DEAD.
        (plus, the relatives who want to see you a last time would be another problem, as pointed out in the previous paragraph. you’d have to bribe a thousand people or so. and never get caught)

        As for the ludicrous silicone suggestion:

        Let’s take this apart with common sense and logic, shall we?

        The rebels/separatists were in full control of the crash site, for at least three days. Yes?

        It is pretty much the ONLY thing the following four parties agree on.

        a) the Russians
        b) the Separatists
        c) Ukrainian government
        d) “the West” (Western Europe plus USA)
        (Another group would be the local civilians)

        Now follow:
        NOBODY wants to be held accountable for this mess.
        Any party found responsible for this would get a severe backlash in loss of support; politically, financially or militarily.

        If what is being said here is true, that the Ukraine (c) and the West (d) are trying to pin this on the Russians (a) and the Separatists (b), don’t you think that the latter two would try very, very hard to avoid this??

        We go back to the first bit: the Separatists have been in full control for that site for at least three days. Dozens of those guys. They have been recording the scene and basically standing on top of the corpses. For three days.
        And now this website is telling me that NONE of the DOZENS of soldiers, in THREE days have noticed that the bodies are actually FAKE?? That they did NOT CHANGE IN APPEARANCE??

        BULL.SHIT.

        If any of these guys had the even the FAINTEST idea of scam, WOULDN’T THEY SHOW THE ENTIRE WORLD?? You wouldn’t just allow other parties to screw you over like that?? Everybody is going to hate you if they pull that off, you want to avoid this!

        “But what if the separatists were hired, not real??”

        I suspect the Real separatists and Russia would strongly point out those guys do NOT belong to them!

        And if not for these guys, how many journalists have been there? So they are all fooled/bribed as well??

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        Sooo answers please???

        • Scoo, BS and Luna,

          Finally! People with sense besides Gabriel and myself….

          And with that, I am going to bed!

        • Gabriel,

          Whaaaaat? Did I miss happy hour or something?

          Dang! I always miss the good stuff.

        • @t Gabriel, dudeeee can you plz tell me what you mean with Luna Landing? I don’t get it lol. First of all i don’t drink alcohol i don’t even like it YUK, but i do have a disease physical not mentally ( just saying because some over here are mentally ill from what i read and noticed 😛 ) what cause my sloppy English because i’m 24/7 a day tired what causes baddd concentration problems/dyslexic sometimes but i won’t bore you with that and my life 😉

          @Cowboy, I’m gonna ignore you for the rest of the time, you are a scary scary man and i refuse to talk or discuss with you ever again so byebye

          @All the other hoax believers, you all act really scary, like a freaking cult or something that wanne brainswash us and when ppl don’t believe or think its a hoax you are gonna offend them, thats pretty childish if you ask me. Can you blame us ( ppl from the Netherlands ) for being angry or sad about the lost of so many ppl?

          @Dr k, you’re site is getting worse but i admit you do have some good findings but not in this case/hoax but thats just my opionion. I found this site a few months ago because of the possible PW hoax and you have some good points.

      • We don’t know the long game being played here. This conundrum has been mentioned previously on ths site. . All we know is that the crash scene is a film set. Sorry, crash scenes….
        http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5623122-3×2-700×467.jpg

        • Xelifelix,

          And what was the name of this movie, I mean film?
          Cannot seem to find it on IMDB
          Please share if you will. Thank you…
          *rolls eyes*
          Surprise me with your overflowing wit.

  5. Wow! So touchy. We have definitely touched some nerves here…maybe they are not feeling so good…not so easy to feel happy when your only friends are made of rubber and latex…
    One bright note…when these friends are damaged while lying in a field you can just buy new silicon friends…

    • You could do that and add them to that big fat piece of new fuselage thrown in the woods. Gorefriends and borefriends.

    • Cecilia,

      Yes you and the rest of the fanboys are touchy.
      You cannot blame people who make their way to this site for getting angry at the disrespect this site is getting worse at. Especially when these people are from a country with so many losses.

      Then add all of the “prove it’s” and rants about mossadomites from Cow. And then just on another page you yourself were getting downright mean to another poster.

      Other than that, there are a few of us that are of the “meh. Just another day in paradise” school of thought.

      So barring the people who have a right to be angry at the disrespect given here, exactly who is getting touchy?

      • “people who make their way to this site…” like they just happen to find it by accident… LMAO. Sent here by your handlers.

        • Xelifelix,

          Um. Yes.
          I found this site by accident while looking for news on Paul Walker.
          Soooooo
          Why do you believe other people cannot find this site by accident?
          You really have alot to learn….and this makes about 5 times you have stalked my comments.
          You must really like me lol
          smh

    • Cecilia,

      Show some class.

      But if you are going to use sarcasm, make it funny. You are just coming off as a witch.

      John Spy Tracer Doughnut holds classes for sarcasm. Don’t know what he charges but I am sure if you buy him a fifth he will be more than happy to teach you.

  6. Luna Landing –

    Who are you little mossadomite to give Dr.K advice? You are silly but yet quite evil zionist troll. You admit you hate Dr.K and this site and yet you claim you are to be taken advice from? LMAO! You hate free speech. You make up every excuse for the zionist warmongering, mass murder and assortment of evil they do and attack those who attack their evil. And you make up every argument, alternatively & contradictorily that they are too powerful and can’t be stopped so no one should oppose them in their evil. lol You are just like the zionists you work so hard to serve: full of ridiculous insane ideas, yet evil. And you try calling your enemies who completely oppose zionist evil like Dr.K & me. lol Atleast you think you’d make up disinfo with some symblance of reality. But a lunatic like you who claims friends died on a zionist hoax airliner shoot-down like you should be taken. What sane person would compound such a ridiculous lie with such evil of admitting your friend died? You’d be completely pitiful if you weren’t so evil and slimey, mossadomite.

    • If you going to repost my words please repost it under your own handle and make it clear who I posted it to which was idiot zionist troll & pathological liar Gabriel.

    • Cowboys,

      Cowboys? How many cowboys? I thought that of you. Nice of you to have a slip of the fingers and admit it.
      lol

  7. The area I under the control of Ihor Kolomoisky , a Zio Oligarch with 20,000 fascist idiots ACTING as separatists , the rioters in Kiev were mere pawns in the scheme so they could be framed . Make no mistake , the plane crash movie set was and is in full control of evil Ihor.

    • * IS under control

  8. “Mr. Sheep in this thread seems to think that you can just write a story for 300 imaginary people…you can’t. All names on the passengerlists have been linked to many, many people. Friends, family, coworkers, classmates and other people.
    These people have been on TV, in Newspapers. Entire elementary classrooms and villages have gone in mourning because an entire family was wiped out and gone.
    You cannot just bribe that many people to leave EVERYTHING and EVERYONE behind and have everybody think you’re DEAD.
    (plus, the relatives who want to see you a last time would be another problem, as pointed out in the previous paragraph. you’d have to bribe a thousand people or so. and never get caught)”

    Yes, you CAN write a story for anything, once the media establishes the foundation lie.

    I think it will help if you revisit 9/11 and see how the media is fully involved in these scams.

    http://septemberclues.info/

    .

  9. Are there Muslims purported to be in those coffins?

    “In the case of MH17, after Muslim remains have been bathed and shrouded by the Malaysian task force in Amsterdam, the Malaysian Government may declare that the funeral prayer in absentia be held in Malaysia.
    http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/07/24/hold-funeral-rites-muslims-mh17/#ixzz38YEy1MBT

    i would have thought that with a full passenger list availabile, any Muslims would have been identfied by name.

    KUALA LUMPUR, July 24 — The Malaysian government will be providing a special grave site in Putrajaya for Muslim victims of the downed Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH17, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom said.

    The special site has been identified at the burial ground, and victims’ families will then have a choice whether to have the bodies buried in Putrajaya or in their respective hometowns.

    “Putrajaya Corporation is also prepared to allocate graves at the burial ground in Presint 20 for the victims if there are requests from their families,” Jamil Khir was quoted saying today by news portal The Star Online.

    The minister in charge of Islamic religious affairs said the remains of the victims will be flown back to Malaysia and the appropriate funeral arrangements made once the forensic teams in the Netherlands complete the identification process.

    He added that Muslim victims will immediately be taken to the Sultan Abdul Samad Mosque at the KL International Airport upon arrival, where special prayers for the dead will be performed.

    Malaysia lost 43 people out of 298 when Flight MH17 was downed over war-torn Ukraine. There were 21 Muslims on board, including the crew members.
    http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/putrajaya-offers-special-grave-site-for-mh17-muslim-victims#sthash.YgISy0Ib.dpuf

  10. Zionist slimebag agent and warmonger Peggy Noonan says USA needs to pick sides between Russia & Ukraine and help her zionist masters stir up some more tension between the two countries after the Zionist hoax plane shootdown operation. Don’t forget this fake Republican endorsed Obama! lol
    http://online.wsj.com/article/6EDABDBC-839C-4FE1-8741-E0B1E6E443F3.html#!6EDABDBC-839C-4FE1-8741-E0B1E6E443F3

  11. Australian Federal Police are now working at the crash scene. They will correctly document what they find at the site and I think it will turn out the incident is real and the remains are those of real people. I sincerely hope the relatives of those that lost their lives don’t see this article as I am sure it will cause them further distress.

    Was this really MH17, or MH370? That I am not sure of. Was there some sort of conspiracy? Most likely. But the crash is real and so are the bodies.

    Stop distressing people.

    • of course they will find it to be real…..that’s their job. [hey, I thought this was a war zone making everybody’s work difficult….] ..that’s their mission. Meanwhile >e told the newspaper: “We need closure. I know Cameron is gone. It’s getting the death certificate. At the moment it’s a waiting game and surely they will arrive in bulk, just like they did after 9/11 without any real evidence.
      http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/familys-pain-over-british-mh17-crash-victim-9631154.html

  12. What is it for music chosen for the video please?

  13. I have never read such shit in my life.
    Did it ever occur to you that this aircraft was SHOT DOWN? it’s passengers, unlike the Helios aircraft were still alive and conscious when the missile hit the aircraft, hence the blood from the explosion & shrapnel. The explosive decompression and the freefall down to the ground is enough to rip the clothes from the corpses.
    All Helios 522’s passengers and crew were already unconscious upon impact due to hypoxia.

  14. Seriously, anyone believing the shit on this site has now promoted himself to absolute dummest and most ignorant person on this damn earth. We lost real people you dumb as fucker!!

  15. You guys so need mental help, is this what you do when there aint no comiccon conventions on ? sad people

    • Yes, there is evidence:

      – you are far beyond insanity
      – there cannot be any God, because it would be a great looser to ‘design’ idiots like you
      – evolution has a long, long way to go …
      – the only hoax is YOU!

  16. Come on. You people are fucking retarded. You believe this shit??? That this was faked? The World, it seems, has now shortage of brain dead retards.

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