High speed train crash in Spain NOT POSSIBLE

Jim Stone, July 25, updated July 26, 2013

A good summary article by Mr. Stone, supporting the views of top train crash experts AGAINST the constant claims of this accident being due to a wildly acting driver going twice the normal rate of speed.

CONFIRMED: Rail system had automatic speed control which would prevent ANY train traveling on it from approaching the turn at that speed.

ASFA RAIL SPEED SYSTEM IN SPAIN FORCES AUTOMATED FULL STOP OF ANY TRAIN OPERATED OVER SPEED AND WILL STOP A TRAIN EVEN AGAINST THE OPERATORS WILL Of course, the media is focusing on how the train’s engineer said “he screwed it up” after the crash, and are lying and misrepresenting his facebook account which shows a picture of a train speedometer with a reading over 200 KM/h, but if the trains are designed to do that anyway as a normal matter of course, that’s just a stab at the minds of people who do not know this. The media is also playing the mind game of mentioning the newest speed control system, and implying the reason for the crash was because the speed control system was not the most modern, but the ASFA speed control system this train was under the control of was perfectly adequate and absent getting hacked would never have allowed this crash.

After reading the media reports it is easy to see the misleading quotes which add up to a lie, and the bottom line is that this train crash CLEARLY WAS NOT POSSIBLE, outside of willful intent from someone not on the train.

My original post follows:

With modern computerized controls installed on trains nowadays, it has long been impossible to go 115 mph around a 50 mile an hour turn. That is exactly what happened in Spain, so we are definitely looking at a control system attack or virus attack as the cause of the crash.

It was an extremely luxurious train of the type that would be carrying important political people and high executives from various companies, and a large number of very important people from the upper levels of the Catholic Church were aboard. The train was only one year old and had the latest computerized controls, which would never have permitted the train to be driven in a way that would cause this crash. This was a case of “boston brakes” with this train.

In the initial Mexican broadcasts, they had pictures of a high level figure who got killed in the crash on the television, but when I saw it there was a torrential downpour with thunder while I was eating at a taco stand under a tarp seeing it on a cheap TV and I could not hear who it was that got killed because the rain was too loud. The subsequent nightly newscast mentioned nothing about it. But someone very high up got killed in that crash. Now I cannot find anything about who it was on the web. No doubt that will be heavily censored.

I have absolutely no doubt that the train crash was an intentional and successful assassination attempt and if anyone doubts they would hijack and crash a train the way they did Hastings, what about all the suspicious plane crashes, where hundreds of people get killed just because one target was aboard?

What about 9/11?

Commuter trains have had computer controlled speed regulation for over 20 years. Though it may be possible to crash them by putting opposite traveling trains on the same track, having one train go over twice the speed it should be on a stretch of track is not possible. The computers on the train will know where the train is and how fast it is going and prohibit the train from being operated over the max speed for where it is on the track. In Mexico City, the 20 year old subway trains cannot be driven over speed and have the entire course the train will travel under computer control with the operators in a supervisory position, unable to make the train go any faster than it should. The Boston subway is the same, even the older lines are speed regulated. In Vancouver B.C., the skytrain does not even have an operator aboard AT ALL, the trains are 100 percent computer driven and controlled, and even that system, which is fully automatic is getting close to 20 years old now. Trains are really easy to have full automation on, because the tracks do the steering and GPS and speed sensors do the rest.

So with this train we are looking at either a hack or a Stuxnet type virus attack, and though I saw one report that said the driver was driving the train that fast, I doubt it. Not with something that modern, which was a high class luxury bullet train to boot. Most likely he was watching the sharp turn approach with horror and a dead stick.

Now the job is to find out who was on that train that made it worth hacking and crashing.

Our addition: Therefore, this statement by an eyewitness, from the UK’s Guardian: “One witness near the scene told the radio station she heard an explosion before seeing the derailed train.”